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Speeders & Drunk Drivers
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: You gun loons who favor open carry - Don't you worry about b Reply with quote

It's like you got $500 just hanging on your belt while you walk down the
street. What's to stop somebody from macing you and grabbing the gun.?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: You gun loons who favor open carry - Don't you worry abo Reply with quote

On Jul 15, 1:13 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
It's like you got $500 just hanging on your belt while you walk down the
street. What's to stop somebody from macing you and  grabbing the gun.?

What's to stop a drunk driver from running you over in a crosswalk and
turning your body into a bloody pulp?

The difference between a gun and a $500 bill is that with the gun you
have the option of calmly handing it over ammunition first!
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Bo Raxo
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: You gun loons who favor open carry - Don't you worry abo Reply with quote

"Benj" <bjacoby@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
news:e8405872-c221-489d-9c85-b55088f80bc0@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 15, 1:13 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
It's like you got $500 just hanging on your belt while you walk down the
street. What's to stop somebody from macing you and grabbing the gun.?

What's to stop a drunk driver from running you over in a crosswalk and
turning your body into a bloody pulp?

The difference between a gun and a $500 bill is that with the gun you
have the option of calmly handing it over ammunition first!


- - - - - - - - - -

Well, the other difference is that when a burglar breaks in to my house and
steals $500, the perp will probably spend it on drugs, or booty, or maybe
that late car payment or a million other things, but the odds are pretty low
he or she will use it to run out and buy a gun.

OTOH, if the burglar finds a gun in my home, they walk away a criminal with
a gun. Maybe they start mugging people. Maybe they sell it to some felon
who otherwise can't get a gun. Either way, it's a gun in criminal hands,
that's a bad thing.

Which is why we need to require unattended guns in your home be stored
either locked up or at least secured with a trigger lock. Dissuade the
crazy lame ass crackheads and junkies who make up 95% of burglars, and won't
want to bother trying to get open a decent quality gun safe, or even a well
locked box (they're looking for easy to sell stuff, not something that
involves work).

See, there is a difference.

As for the mugging, if a bad guy surprises you with a gun pulled out (or two
or three guys with guns), they're isn't shit you can do. They can go
through your pockets, pat you down, take your weapon and anything else they
want. Pretty obvious fact, and so concealed carry only manages to give
perps a huge incentive to be carrying and pull first.


Bo Raxo
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: You gun loons who favor open carry - Don't you worry abo Reply with quote

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:59:40 -0700 (PDT), Benj wrote:
Quote:
On Jul 15, 1:13 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's like you got $500 just hanging on your belt while you walk down the
street. What's to stop somebody from macing you and  grabbing the gun.?

What's to stop a drunk driver from running you over in a crosswalk and
turning your body into a bloody pulp?

The difference between a gun and a $500 bill is that with the gun you
have the option of calmly handing it over ammunition first!

LOL. Good one. I love it.

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jimbo@sonic.net
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Benj
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: You gun loons who favor open carry - Don't you worry abo Reply with quote

On Jul 16, 12:31 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
The gun, dummy.

You got a face full of mace or pepper spray and you think you can still hit
something? HAHAHA. You are an ignoramus.


Hey moron. How big are your balls? I've got a gun and a holster. I'll
walk around town and you can choose the time and place to mace me and
take my gun. Oh yeah, first you must sign a statement that your
intent was to kill me so that when I shoot you I can prove self-
defense. You think mace is some kind of "magic" that makes the
motivated person incapable of firing a gun in an effective manner when
the assailant is right on top of you? You are dumber than a box of
hammers! Come on accept the "test" and I'll show you how stupidity
can make a person dead.

Just what is it with this fantasy land that all you gun-grabbers live
in? Virtually NONE of you seem to have any experience with anything
except how to lie and twist the meaning of words. Where in hell have
you been your whole life?
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Bo Raxo
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: You gun loons who favor open carry - Don't you worry abo Reply with quote

"Benj" <bjacoby@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Jul 16, 12:31 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

The gun, dummy.

You got a face full of mace or pepper spray and you think you can still
hit
something? HAHAHA. You are an ignoramus.


Hey moron. How big are your balls? I've got a gun and a holster. I'll
walk around town and you can choose the time and place to mace me and
take my gun. Oh yeah, first you must sign a statement that your
intent was to kill me so that when I shoot you I can prove self-
defense. You think mace is some kind of "magic" that makes the
motivated person incapable of firing a gun in an effective manner when
the assailant is right on top of you? You are dumber than a box of
hammers! Come on accept the "test" and I'll show you how stupidity
can make a person dead.


You walk down the street with that gun visible in that holster. I pop out
behind you with a baseball bat. You're dead before you even turn around, and
now I'm a felon (because of the attack on you) with a shiny new gun.

Quote:
Just what is it with this fantasy land that all you gun-grabbers live
in? Virtually NONE of you seem to have any experience with anything
except how to lie and twist the meaning of words. Where in hell have
you been your whole life?

Just what fantasy do you gun lovers live in? Ever had a stranger point a
gun at you?

I have.

Ever been in a life or death physical fight? Ever been knocked unconscious?
Virtually none of you have experience with the scenarios you spin, you've
just watched too many movies.

Law enforcement people who have generally agree that when someone wants to
rob you, the answer is not to pull out a gun, it's to hand over your money
or property and stay alive.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: You gun loons who favor open carry - Don't you worry abo Reply with quote

On Jul 18, 4:55 am, The Lone Weasel <lonewea...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> said:



On 15 Jul 2008 20:00:18 GMT, droolingid...@live.com
(Drooling Idiot) wrote:
Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:56:31 -0700,
OnMyKneesEd...@nospam.com wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:59:40 -0700 (PDT), Benj
bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
On Jul 15, 1:13 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's like you got $500 just hanging on your belt
while you walk down the street. What's to stop
somebody from macing you and grabbing the gun.?
What's to stop a drunk driver from running you over in
a crosswalk and turning your body into a bloody pulp?
The difference between a gun and a $500 bill is that
with the gun you have the option of calmly handing it
over ammunition first!
I can see some enterprising criminal making a good
living off of stealing open carry guns. Once he has the
gun in your back, he takes your gun.
You obviously know nothing about guns or carrying.
Why don't you enlighten us, then?

I'll let you enlighten yourself. We have several states
with Open Carry. Feel free to enlighten yourself as to how
many times the above-mentioned gun theft has occurred.

Well I favor open carry if you're gonna carry a gun at all,
and I probably would carry a gun openly out to a shooting
range on my bicycle.

So what's the deal with open carry? Why wouldn't it be more
preferable than concealed carry both for the gun owner and the
public?

I really don't understand why it's controversial.

Allowing citizens to carry concealed extends the protection of being
armed beyond the person so armed. It creates uncertainty in the mind
of the criminal: "is this person armed or not?" Open carry protects
only those so armed or those in the company of one so armed.

As to why open carry is controversial, you got me there.

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