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 Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers |
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On Jul 15, 3:13 am, Tim Bruening <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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$27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote:
Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. Where does Gore
get off telling others how to live?
If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to
support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming?
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No. Since we already proved from histrory, that if you give a
Democrat
a wheel, the only and predetermined final result, will be another
cloned wheel. So that's why lasers were invented.
And we already proved that if you give a wank like a Scisntist
electronics,
the only and predetermined result while be a tax-payer funded road
trip to China..
So that's why Satellites, A.I. Digital Computers, Fiber Optics, PV
Cells, DVD,
and Wind Energy werer invented. |
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Trygve Lillefosse
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers |
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:29:54 -0600, "fredrick" <hboldt@accesscomm.ca>
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In other parts of the world we use price/demand, as stated in a pretty
well known economic theory called "capitalism" - if prices go up,
demand goes down.
The ansewer is carbon tax. No need to forbid anything or plea that
consumers will want to "spend" as litle co2 as possible
Ah Yes a carbon tax is the answer !
The more carbon I can use in making an article , the more you will have
to pay me for it. Plus my mark-up on expense of course!
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Good to see that you agree.
The more polution energy you need to bring your product to market -
the higher price you need to demand. Meaning that those who use less
energy and polutes less will be able to sell for less and get a better
profit.
Like the one who sells small items without large plastic wrapping, or
the one who sells cereals in bags instead of bowes with 50% air.
Not to mention the furniture seller that ships the furniture in a flat
package, and assemples the furnitures at the spot - That is such a big
energy saver, cost slasher and profit-maker that I am sure it is an
American invention.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers |
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:43:18 -0400, Poetic Justice
<@http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com> wrote:
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fredrick wrote:
In other parts of the world we use price/demand, as stated in a pretty
well known economic theory called "capitalism" - if prices go up,
demand goes down.
The ansewer is carbon tax. No need to forbid anything or plea that
consumers will want to "spend" as litle co2 as possible
Ah Yes a carbon tax is the answer !
The more carbon I can use in making an article , the more you will have
to pay me for it. Plus my mark-up on expense of course!
He just forgot that paying this carbon tax is academic, if you don't
have the money.... great way to bring in a "world wide" depression.
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If other taxes are slashed, you still got you money in your pocket. It
would not have a big impact on the average Joe. The main change would
be in how products are produced and what products that would sell
well.
But then again - it is probarbly to late as energy prices are going to
be high for the foreseabe future. Meaning that the money that could
have been spent on schools and medical care in the past, will rater go
to increase the profits of those who collects energy from the ground.
If you already had an energy tax in place many years ago, US Americans
would already be conserving energy. The suburbs would not have been as
widespread, and you would be less impacted due to the hike in energy
prices. (A hike that would have come a few years later, while
alternative energy would have more momentum.)
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers |
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On Jul 15, 3:25 pm, Trygve Lillefosse <n...@lillefosse.NOSPAM.org>
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:08:08 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. ?Where does Gore
get off telling others how to live?
If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to
support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming?
What efforts exactly do you mean can stop global warming?
Carbon labeling on consumer items. Right beside the price sticker is
another sticker that gives the consumer a number on that product's
projected impact on the atmosphere, both the manufacture and use.
In other parts of the world we use price/demand, as stated in a pretty
well known economic theory called "capitalism" - if prices go up,
demand goes down.
The ansewer is carbon tax. No need to forbid anything or plea that
consumers will want to "spend" as litle co2 as possible
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SEE YA !!!
Trygve Lillefosse
AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King
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The first person who tries to collect a carbon tax from me will get a
bullet in their brain for their efforts... |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers |
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Bret Cahill wrote:
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Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. ?Where
does Gore
get off telling others how to live?
If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to
support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming?
What efforts exactly do you mean can stop global warming?
Carbon labeling on consumer items. ?Right beside the price sticker
is another sticker that gives the consumer a number on that
product's projected impact on the atmosphere, both the manufacture
and use.
In other parts of the world we use price/demand, as stated in a
pretty well known economic theory called "capitalism" - if prices go
up, demand goes down.
Before that can be done politically you'll _first_ need to _inform_
the public on _who_ and _what_ is causing the CO2.
Al Gore's high CO2 lifestyle needs to be held up as a model one what
_not_ to do.
Since Gore is so fat, stupid and useless most people will immediately
try to do the opposite.
Who knows? That might have been Gore's strategy all along!
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The usual pathetic denialist lies. lol |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:59 am Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:19:54 -0700 (PDT), deanwil@msn.com wrote:
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On Jul 15, 3:25 pm, Trygve Lillefosse <n...@lillefosse.NOSPAM.org
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:08:08 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. ?Where does Gore
get off telling others how to live?
If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to
support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming?
What efforts exactly do you mean can stop global warming?
Carbon labeling on consumer items. Right beside the price sticker is
another sticker that gives the consumer a number on that product's
projected impact on the atmosphere, both the manufacture and use.
In other parts of the world we use price/demand, as stated in a pretty
well known economic theory called "capitalism" - if prices go up,
demand goes down.
The ansewer is carbon tax. No need to forbid anything or plea that
consumers will want to "spend" as litle co2 as possible
The first person who tries to collect a carbon tax from me will get a
bullet in their brain for their efforts...
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Does that go for all taxes?
You already pay a small fuel tax.
Have you shot many lately?
Either way, it is probarbly to late for the US to start taxing the
fuel to any extent.
But the next time you fill up your tankl, remember that the fuel
prices do much less impact on european users, as we are used to be
aware of our energy use due to taxation. We can drive our cars, heat
our homes and live our life with litle change.
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