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Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Tom Gardner Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message news:487C4E05.1F4A2F78@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us... Quote: $27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? But, but he's ENTITLED! He IS saving us! We need to send him more virgins! Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Tim Bruening Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers Tom Gardner wrote: Quote: "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message news:487C4E05.1F4A2F78@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us... $27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? But, but he's ENTITLED! He IS saving us! We need to send him more virgins! Why? Has he converted to Islam? Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Peter Muehlbauer Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: Quote: $27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? What efforts exactly do you mean can stop global warming? Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Bret Cahill Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers Quote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. �Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? What efforts exactly do you mean can stop global warming? Carbon labeling on consumer items. Right beside the price sticker is another sticker that gives the consumer a number on that product's projected impact on the atmosphere, both the manufacture and use. The units would be in "microGores." One "Gore" would be defined as Al Gore's projected lifetime contribution of CO2. Come to think of it, the "nanoGore" would probably be the most popular unit. Bret Cahill Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Tunderbar Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers On Jul 15, 9:37 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote: Quote: Tim Bruening wrote: $27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses.  Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming?   Al Gore has already reduced his personal carbon footprint to almost zero through energy saving modifications and paying green power premiums.  Don't be fooled by liars. Show us the numbers. How much energy does each of his three houses use? How close is it to zero? What green premiums, to whom, and how does that change anything in terms of his actual energy usage? How does he offset his air travel energy usage? And his SUV and limo energy usage? Huh? Anyone who actually beleives that Al Gores carbon footprint is almost zero is a real zero in intellectual terms. But I'll give you hundred in cult membership and blind follower points. How pathetic can you get? http://vistasucks.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/hear_no_evil.jpg Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Tunderbar Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers On Jul 15, 10:48 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote: Quote: Tunderbar wrote: On Jul 15, 9:37 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote: Tim Bruening wrote: $27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? Al Gore has already reduced his personal carbon footprint to almost zero through energy saving modifications and paying green power premiums. Don't be fooled by liars. Show us the numbers. see alt.global-warming for extensinve discussion and cites on this topic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh well, then I'm convinced. You've won me over with your in-depth and detailed explanation that explains your argument. Oh hang on there, you didn't do that, nevermind. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Ouroboros_Rex Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers Tim Bruening wrote: Quote: $27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? Al Gore has already reduced his personal carbon footprint to almost zero through energy saving modifications and paying green power premiums. Don't be fooled by liars. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Ouroboros_Rex Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers Tunderbar wrote: Quote: On Jul 15, 9:37 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote: Tim Bruening wrote: $27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? Al Gore has already reduced his personal carbon footprint to almost zero through energy saving modifications and paying green power premiums. Don't be fooled by liars. Show us the numbers. see alt.global-warming for extensinve discussion and cites on this topic. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Peter Muehlbauer Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote: Quote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. ?Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? What efforts exactly do you mean can stop global warming? Carbon labeling on consumer items. Right beside the price sticker is another sticker that gives the consumer a number on that product's projected impact on the atmosphere, both the manufacture and use. I'd prefer another label on how much of the products price will go into Al Gorski's property. Quote: The units would be in "microGores." One "Gore" would be defined as Al Gore's projected lifetime contribution of CO2. Come to think of it, the "nanoGore" would probably be the most popular unit. And how much is a HypeGore? *digging out discount stamp booklet* -- "No study to date has positively attributed all or part (of the climate change obvserved to date) to anthropogenic (manmade) causes." [IPCC report, censored cite] Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Ouroboros_Rex Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers Tunderbar wrote: Quote: On Jul 15, 10:48 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote: Tunderbar wrote: On Jul 15, 9:37 am, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote: Tim Bruening wrote: $27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? Al Gore has already reduced his personal carbon footprint to almost zero through energy saving modifications and paying green power premiums. Don't be fooled by liars. Show us the numbers. see alt.global-warming for extensinve discussion and cites on this topic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh well, then I'm convinced. You've won me over with your in-depth and detailed explanation that explains your argument. Oh hang on there, you didn't do that, nevermind. Your inability to read the newsgroup you have been posting to is not my problem. lol Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Trygve Lillefosse Guest Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:08:08 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote: Quote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. ?Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? What efforts exactly do you mean can stop global warming? Carbon labeling on consumer items. Right beside the price sticker is another sticker that gives the consumer a number on that product's projected impact on the atmosphere, both the manufacture and use. In other parts of the world we use price/demand, as stated in a pretty well known economic theory called "capitalism" - if prices go up, demand goes down. The ansewer is carbon tax. No need to forbid anything or plea that consumers will want to "spend" as litle co2 as possible -- SEE YA !!! Trygve Lillefosse AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Bret Cahill Guest Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers Quote: Private jets, armoured limos, expensive, huge houses. ?Where does Gore get off telling others how to live? If Al Gore were to reduce his carbon footprint, would you agree to support Kyoto and other efforts to stop global warming? What efforts exactly do you mean can stop global warming? Carbon labeling on consumer items. �Right beside the price sticker is another sticker that gives the consumer a number on that product's projected impact on the atmosphere, both the manufacture and use. In other parts of the world we use price/demand, as stated in a pretty well known economic theory called "capitalism" - if prices go up, demand goes down. Before that can be done politically you'll _first_ need to _inform_ the public on _who_ and _what_ is causing the CO2. Al Gore's high CO2 lifestyle needs to be held up as a model one what _not_ to do. Since Gore is so fat, stupid and useless most people will immediately try to do the opposite. Who knows? That might have been Gore's strategy all along! Bret Cahill Quote: The ansewer is carbon tax. No need to forbid anything or plea that consumers will want to "spend" as litle co2 as possible -- SEE YA !!! Trygve Lillefosse AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor fredrick Guest Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers Quote: In other parts of the world we use price/demand, as stated in a pretty well known economic theory called "capitalism" - if prices go up, demand goes down. The ansewer is carbon tax. No need to forbid anything or plea that consumers will want to "spend" as litle co2 as possible -- SEE YA !!! Trygve Lillefosse AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King =================== Ah Yes a carbon tax is the answer ! The more carbon I can use in making an article , the more you will have to pay me for it. Plus my mark-up on expense of course! Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Poetic Justice Guest Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: Gore's "carbon footprint" at least 100x the average pers fredrick wrote: Quote: In other parts of the world we use price/demand, as stated in a pretty well known economic theory called "capitalism" - if prices go up, demand goes down. The ansewer is carbon tax. No need to forbid anything or plea that consumers will want to "spend" as litle co2 as possible -- SEE YA !!! Trygve Lillefosse AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King =================== Ah Yes a carbon tax is the answer ! The more carbon I can use in making an article , the more you will have to pay me for it. Plus my mark-up on expense of course! He just forgot that paying this carbon tax is academic, if you don't have the money.... great way to bring in a "world wide" depression. 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